Talk:Stephan Hanna Stephan

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Did you know... that the government radio station in Mandatory Palestine had an Arab Hour in the late 1930s hosting Palestinian writers like Stephan Hanna Stephan?

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1945/6

The notice in the Gazette of 12 Sep 1946 cited by Irving reads "Appointments. Mr. S. H. Stephan, Assistant Librarian, Department of Antiquities, to be Archaeological Officer, with effect from the 1st April, 1945." It was common for the gazetting of appointments to trail well behind the dates of the appointments and all of the six appointments in this announcement are like that. So I'm changing 1945–1946 to 1945. I notice that three of these are in the Antiquities Department and all state 1st April 1945. Another one is wiki-useful: "Mr. Dimitri Baramki D.C. Baramki, Inspector, Department of Antiquities, to be Senior Archaeological officer, with effect from the 1st April, 1945.". Zero^talk 12:34, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

His age in the photo

To editor Onceinawhile:. Did you get the photo from a place that says "Place and date unknown"? He certainly looks older than 23 to me (closer to 40). Also, the fez/tarboosh didn't go out of use in 1917 but persisted much longer. Look at this 1929 photo for example. The choice between tarboosh and kufiyya became a political statement during the 1936–1939 revolt but it didn't die out then either. We should have an article on this if there isn't one already. Zero^talk 13:02, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Zero0000, I don’t know how you do it, but you are amazing. Thank you for pointing out my error. Onceinawhile (talk) 13:37, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE: Text moved to Talk:Fez

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Desertarun (talk) 09:51, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that Stephan Hanna Stephan wrote about Palestinian folk songs and the Song of songs?~~ Source: "The earliest of Stephan's works, "The Palestinian Parallels to the Song of Songs" (1922) documented the lyrics of folk songs in Palestine and compared them to biblical, Mesopotamian and Canaanite precursors."^[1]
- ALT1:... that the Mandate Palestine Government radio station had an 'Arab Hour' that was hosted by Palestinian writers like Stephan Hanna Stephan?Source: "Beginning in 1936, Stephan was also a broadcaster on the Mandatory Government radio station's Arab Hour, where he shared much of his interest in ethnography and history with the Arabic speaking population of Palestine."^[2]

ALT1.0:... that the radio station in Mandatory Palestine had an 'Arab Hour' in the late 1930s hosting Palestinian writers like Stephan Hanna Stephan? Source: "Beginning in 1936, Stephan was also a broadcaster on the Mandatory Government radio station's Arab Hour, where he shared much of his interest in ethnography and history with the Arabic speaking population of Palestine."^[3]

Created by Tiamut (talk). Self-nominated at 19:16, 1 May 2021 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Well researched and written article, with reliable sources, and a valuable article for anyone interested in this topic area. Some more remarks: Could you add some more information on the journal Sarkis? Your link does not lead to the article by Irving, spring 2018. Does the conference paper by Irving have a date you could add? - And would you agree with my slightly modified ALT1.0? Finally, I am not sure, about your list of QPQ reviews. Munfarid1 (talk) 10:14, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Tiamut, I am just waiting for your reaction to my remarks and would like to finish this review, so it can go ahead. Munfarid1 (talk) 19:18, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am so sorry, things have been rather crazy since I made this nomination where I live abd I am unable to devote the time I had wanted to to this. Your alt is fine. I have not done a QPQ ... I hd just come back to Wikipedia after about a ten year hiatus & have to refamiliarize myself with it a bit. If this means the nom can't go through I understand and thank you for your time. Tiamut^talk 10:10, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Tiamut, if you could respond to my remarks above about the journal Sarkis and the conference paper by Irving, I could finish your DYK nomination. - As you have not had any DYK nominations since 2015, I guess you don't have to do one now before this goes ahead. The rule says, you have to do QPQ after 5 of your nominations. Thanks for pinging me, when you are done.

Munfarid1 (talk) 08:31, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your understanding Munafrid. I hope these additions clear up when & where exactly it was published. diff here. Tiamut^talk 13:21, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I meant to write User:Munfarid1. Tiamut^talk 13:24, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tiamut, I looked up a source for Sarkis magazine and added the year 2015 in the bibliography for Irving. Now everything is ready for approval, and I have just given the go ahead for the next stage. - Let's hope there will be a good number of visits when it will appear on DYK. Munfarid1 (talk) 13:47, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just adding a tick here, since I've scrolled past a few times and missed the existing one. This nom is good to go. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 23:35, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Irving, 2017, pp. 42-3.
^ Sarah Irving (Spring 2018). "A Young Man of Promise: Finding a Place for Stephan Hanna in the History of Mandate Palestine" (PDF). Jerusalem Quarterly (73).{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: year (link)
^ Sarah Irving (Spring 2018). "A Young Man of Promise: Finding a Place for Stephan Hanna in the History of Mandate Palestine" (PDF). Jerusalem Quarterly (73).{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: year (link)

Robert Lachmann etc.

Hello @Tiamut: you might find the article on Robert Lachmann and the article quoted there by Davis, Ruth F. Ethnomusicology and Political Ideology in Mandatory Palestine: Robert Lachmann's "Oriental Music" Projects, in: Music & Politics 4, Number 2 (Summer 2010), p. 1–15. (with audio examples of Lachmann's radio programmes) interesting. - And is the radio station in Mandatory Palestine you mention the same as the Palestine Broadcasting Service? Then you could include this name and bluelink in your article on this fascinating person and career. - It contains very useful information for me, and hopefully for others, too. (Especially when it will be featured as DYK!) Munfarid1 (talk) 10:29, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks User:Munfarid1. Indeed it was the PBS the only radio station in Palestine at the time. I will add the wikilink to it. I don't really see the relevance of Lachmann to this article though. Tiamut (talk) 19:20, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[Irving2017p42-1] Irving, 2017, pp. 42-3.

[2] Sarah Irving (Spring 2018). "A Young Man of Promise: Finding a Place for Stephan Hanna in the History of Mandate Palestine" (PDF). Jerusalem Quarterly (73).{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: year (link)

[3] Sarah Irving (Spring 2018). "A Young Man of Promise: Finding a Place for Stephan Hanna in the History of Mandate Palestine" (PDF). Jerusalem Quarterly (73).{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: year (link)

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